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July 28, 2007
Wow. What a punch in the gut.
By Steve Bodinet
We take the "family" part of Arizona's Family seriously, and now our family has lost two of it's brightest lights. It would be so easy to write a book on each of these guys.
There are just too many Jim Cox stories to tell. He was a nut, the funniest guy I've ever known. Every moment with him wore a smile. We all like to laugh and that's why we all wanted to work with Jimmy. That, and the fact that he was an incredible photographer.
I've been in this market 30 years, and during that time I've shot 90 percent of my own stories, but if Jimmy was available, I'd grab him. His work was just amazing, and that's why everybody wanted to partner up with him each day.
This ball of energy -- he ran everywhere -- never did anything less than 110 percent. He remodeled his home, built a garage, designed his truck to include every gadget in the world. He played guitar, kind of. He was going to take flying lessons so that he could sit behind the controls of NewsChopper 3 some day.
He had more plans, more ideas, more dreams than 50 people, and he would have gotten every single one of 'em done. Gosh, we just love that guy. We already miss him way too much. God bless ya, Jimmy.
Scott was a pilot. A very, very good pilot. A guy who taught our Bruce Haffner, and tons of others, to fly. And fly the right way. I've flown with nine pilots in the phoenix market. None. There was none better. He was atop pilot, and a heck of a guy. What a smile. It must have come with his face 'cuz it went everywhere with him.
He was the first to say "hi" to anyone, treated ya like an old friend. And he did something that few can do. He made you feel so at ease in that machine he flew.
As photographers, we often strap in, open the door, hang out to get the shot we need. He knew how to get you in the right spot to get that right shot. And when you're hanging out the door, way up there, you want to know the guy flyin' is the right guy. Scott was the right guy. We already miss him, way too much, also.
Our hearts go out to our friends at Channel 15. We know they hurt also.
Their photographer, Rick Krolak, was part of our Arizona Family for 10 years, and some of us old timers knew him well. He was a funny guy, a great photographer, a guy who loved his job and his family. Goodbye, Ricky.
We thank you, folks, our Arizona Family out there, for letting us mourn.
We've gone on and on about our loss and you've been so good to us. Our lobby is full of flowers and cards. Our newsroom is full of food. Gosh.
We promise to pull ourselves together, do our jobs, and bring you the best newscast in town.
Thanks for your patience and understanding. We'll all have to work harder 'cuz we're short a couple of hands, a couple of friends, a couple of bright lights.
Wow. What a punch in the gut.
Posted by Steve Bodinet at July 28, 2007 10:39 AM
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We are devoted 3TV viewers for 10 years now. My entire family is deeply saddened by yesterday's tragedy. We send our deepest sympathies and our prayers for all of you at 3TV and to the families of these two extraordinary men. All of you at 3TV are demonstrating extraordinary strength in keeping your extended family updated. You are all pulling a strength from within that is truly incredible. May God bless you all and guide you all thru this very, very sad time. Again, with our deepest heartfelt sympathies - the Scotto/Orriss family
Posted by: Julia Scotto at July 28, 2007 11:15 AM
I feel for all of you guys. The world is way too short of good guys like Scott and Jim. I hate when we lose them, and get to keep all the troublesome ones out there. Like the one who caused this. Please take care of yourselves at 3TV and know that we are thinking of you.
Posted by: Noelle at July 28, 2007 11:16 AM
Our thoughts go out to you all at this time. Your loving words of tribute and warm tender looks on your face tell us more about these wonderful men. Thank you so much for sharing your love for them.
It helps those of us who have only watched them for all these years to really know them better and their devotion to serve all of us. May God be with you all and with their families.
Posted by: Pauline Sanchez at July 28, 2007 11:17 AM
I was sitting at home yesterday and heard the helicopters overhead. It wasnt till later when I learned about what had happened. A deep sorrow had overcome me. My body would not allow me to cry. I had my head down and prayed for all of you as well as the "15" team. I do understand that we all one day will take it upon ourselves to spread our wings and catch a breeze. Fly onto where ever we may. It is unfortunate that sometimes the time to spread our wings can come onto us in a sudden manner. In our hearts and in our thoughts you all will be. I have fallen in love with many people as I have with you all.
Posted by: Art Kitcheyan at July 28, 2007 11:18 AM
To all of the 3TV family: I am SO sorry for your loss. This sad news is just killing me, so I can imagine how those who knew and loved these men now feel. They have indeed both got wings now, and those beautiful smiling faces of theirs are looking down from heaven now and saying, "Hey, guys, lighten up. We're in a better place now." I have no doubt that they are in heaven and that God is watching over them and giving them all "atta boys". They were great people, all four of them.
Posted by: Christy at July 28, 2007 11:21 AM
I am so sorry about your loss. I was at work when I saw the black smoke arise over the palm trees. I had no idea what had actually happened until I came home from work at 4:30pm.
RIP Scott, Jim, Rick, and Craig.
Posted by: Jessica Spence at July 28, 2007 11:27 AM
We all are so sorry, and our hearts have been hurting since yesterday. I've lost family and friends and this feels just the same. We watch this channel morning, noon, and night. Your dedicated audience in Yuma wants to send our heartfelt condolences to everyone @channel 3. Sincerely, Sean Legros
Posted by: sean at July 28, 2007 11:56 AM
Thank you Steve for putting into words as best as can be said, our feelings also. As just a viewer, I have come to feel like I know all of you. Your really are real people who touch so many of us viewers. We know that you will go forward, just because that is what Scott and Jim would have wanted you to. God's blessings to all. He did bless us with these two men who were put in all our lives. With sincere heartfelt condolences. Marilyn
Posted by: Marilyn at July 28, 2007 11:57 AM
To the news family and to the families of Scott and Jim,
My heart breaks every time I think about what has happened. I've been watching the news station for years first with my mother when we got ready in the morning for work and school and now I watch you with my boys in the morning. Our thoughts and prayers are with you in this difficult time. God bless you all!
Sincerely,
Sheila Doyle
Posted by: Sheila Doyle at July 28, 2007 12:17 PM
Steve - Those of us on the East Coast of the US mourn the death of your AZfamily colleagues and your friends @ ABC 15. I have seen a few chopper accidents on the news in my life (WNBC TV New York City comes to mind), but those folks have been lucky enough to walk away.
I offer my sympathies to you over your loss.
Posted by: Lou Lange at July 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Very touching, Scott. Don't you worry, you know Arizonans are the sort of people that will not only allow you all the time to mourn your losses, but will be mourning along with you. I've been gone from AZ for 6 months now, but grew up watching all of you. I was so saddened by this tragic story. It's shocking and surreal.
God bless you all.
Posted by: Melisa at July 28, 2007 12:30 PM
My sincere condolences to the staff of Channel 3 and the families of Scott and Jim. What a tragedy we all observed yesterday! They were great guys and will always be remembered.
Posted by: Renee Henriksen at July 28, 2007 12:38 PM
WE invite you guys into our homes every day. We take it for granted that you will always be there giving us your best. Now a couple of your best have fallen and I can only imagine the loss you all must feel. I only know the Arizona Family team through the TV. You all worked and shared together. Bless you all for hanging in there and trying to be strong, inspite of the pain. My being able to share your memories with all of us help ease your pain, I know it is helping ease mine.
Posted by: Pat Colloran at July 28, 2007 1:09 PM
My first job was at Channel 3... I worked there 8 years as a producer.
I'm one of the old-timers who remembers Rick Krolak. I never had the privilege to meet Scott and Jim.
I'm heartbroken that this happened. I'm so sad for all of you. You're all in my prayers.
Posted by: Annette Smith at July 28, 2007 1:18 PM
My heart goes out to you all and my prayers go "up".
God Bless,
Cathy Higgins
Posted by: Cathy Higgins at July 28, 2007 1:19 PM
To all at CHANNEL 3,
Our hearts go out to all of you. There wasn't a day that went by that we didn't the tv on specially in the early a.m. I would watch Bruce or Scott with Hilton or Jim and all did a awesome job I would call my husband while he was in traffic to get him out of a traffic jam the choppers in the air would give me a path for him to go, we did this for years and we just recently moved out of Phoenix and some things are not so easy to get use to like seeing the faces everyday we don't see them here and that we will miss for ever..we grew up there, we grew with all of you too.
The angels are in heaven now, cause they have been messagers all along.
We never know why for tragedies, but there is always a reason.
The sky's are so bright at certain times of the day it's blinding for all..
We will always love you from a far.
So please stay safe..The price for Jouralism. And I do not mean that in a bad way at all..Others have lost there lives for doing the job.
Bill & Diana Alsabrook ky.
Posted by: Diana Alsabrook at July 28, 2007 8:04 PM
Hi,
My prayers are for all of you at 3TV and to the families of these two extraordinary men. Within this tragedy, my heart goes out to Bruce Haffner. Scott was his teacher and mentor. Scott was covering for Bruce. Please let him know he is so loved by all of us.
Barb
Posted by: Barb at July 28, 2007 8:12 PM
The tragic event that happened yesterday still goes through my mind clearly. I did not know these men personally, however, every morning and every night I watch your news cast. When I heard the devastating news I felt as if someone punched me in the stomach. I could only imagine what their families and the news family must be feeling. May God be with you in this trying time. Always remember they (Scott & Jim) will be smiling down upon you.
Posted by: Kim Foster at July 28, 2007 8:37 PM
If this has broken my heart for your loss - then I can not even conceive your grief. I have cried & cried as I can not imagine the grief of the families for each of these individuals.
They all sound like great people & I wish I knew them more than through a camera.
My husband saw the whole thing unfold & has been forever changed because of it. I will continue to pray for each of the family members at 3TV & ABC15 as well as the family members for Jim, Scott, Rick & Craig.
Posted by: Shelley at July 28, 2007 9:24 PM
To everyone at 3TV- I am so sorry for your loss. I have grown up watching you since I was little, so I its easy for me to consider you all family. I see you all reporting the news all day and I never thought about it happening to you...it seems unreal, like you all were untouchable. Unfortunatly the tragic accident yesterday says different, no matter what always remember that the valley will have you in there thoughts and prayers. And now Mr.Jim Cox and Mr. Scott Bowerbank and flying as much as they like with wings of the angels. They are in good hands and Im sure you all will always feel their spirt. . .
Posted by: Tiffany at July 28, 2007 10:29 PM
My sincere condolences of 3TV news famly and the families of Scott and Jim. My family watches channel 3 faithfully every morning while getting ready for work and every evening when we get home including weekends. We feel like we've lost two of our own family memebers. The four men that lost their lives doing what they loved are in our hearts and prayers.
God Bless
Brenda, Keith and Kyle
Posted by: Brenda at July 28, 2007 11:43 PM
My husband David and I are so sorry for the loss of Scott and Jim,two great people, we wake up everyday to Channel 3, you are our family.Our hearts and prayers go to you all at this time. I was at work just down the street from this tragic accident and the minute we heard what had happened our whole department went into shock and disbelief that we could loose such great people so quickly, it was a very sad day for us all.
Godbless the families of Scott and Jim and also to you all at Channel 3.
Marjorie
Posted by: Marjorie Fitchew at July 29, 2007 9:17 AM
My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you, Steve. I know our skies above will be safer for having our 4 angels hovering over us. I hope we all can try to be as honorable, dedicated, energetic, and selfless as these men who gave everything to be our eyes in the sky. We miss them terribly.
Hugs from Lake Powell
Posted by: Jane Ward at July 29, 2007 9:21 AM
My condolensences go out to all the friends, family and co-workers of Scott, Jim, Rick and Craig. Although I never had the opportunity to meet Jim, Rick or Craig I did get the opportunity to meet Scott about a year ago out at PIR/NASCAR. I can tell you that my heart aches knowing he is gone. He was an awesome man, friendly face and an impeccable pilot. I know this because my boyfriend Dale and I are responsible for the air traffic control out at PIR. Scott was one of the people we looked forward to seeing at every race. He will be greatly missed....RIP Scott.
Posted by: Jeannie at July 29, 2007 9:50 AM
Dear 3TV Family,
I cannot put into words how deeply sorry I am for your great loss. I have been a faithful viewer for 10+ years & feel as though I have lost 2 friends that I never met but had great respect & admiration for. I cannot go without shedding a tear each time I pick up a newspaper, log on the internet, listen to the radio or turn on 3TV News when I am reminded of the tragedy that occured Friday afternoon. I am, however, reminded of how passionate & great Scott & Jim were at doing the job they loved most. During this difficult time, please keep in mind that the AZ Family goes beyond the walls of your newsroom...it is extended to the thousands of homes in this entire state of AZ, including my own. My thoughts & endless prayers are with every single one of you, as well as Scott & Jim's family. Each time you look up into our beautiful blue sky, remember that Scott & Jim have wings that are flying them higher than ever!
3TV's Family & Friend,
Anne Kaiser - Phoenix, AZ
Posted by: Anne Kaiser at July 29, 2007 10:45 AM
My family and I are very devoted veiwers of Channel 3 news Good Morning AZ and we are deeply sadened by the lost of 2 great people. Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the families and friends of these two great people they will be greatly missed. We watch them from Show Low Az daily!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Michelle d. Rowell at July 29, 2007 11:40 AM
May God bless you all in this time of tragedy. 3TV has been in my life for over 20 years and I am saddened by this news. It was and is surreal that this has happened.
I know that the level of professionalism will be there for you even though your hearts are broken. Know that we understand and appreciate the human"ness" that will come in reporting the news and that through this tragedy you will all be better reporters for it since you now have become the news and you want to report it with dignity and not exploit it.
Again, God bless and God speed.
Our thoughts and prayers are will all of the friends and families of these four men.
Posted by: Brandi at July 29, 2007 12:12 PM
I was in Lakeside AZ. on friday and did not have access to channel 3 when my son called and told me to turn on the news. I could only get the news on channel 10 via Tucson channel 7 at which time I was shocked and heartbroken to see our Arizona Family loose two of our most respected family menbers loose their lives doing what thet did best that being keeping all of arizona informed of what is going on in and around the state. I personally wake up to GMAZ every morning to the smiling faces of the best news crew ever. I tune in at 11 for the GDAZ program only to learn more and again at GEAZ then again at 10 pm to end my day with the best. I had the honor of meeting Scott at an air show and found him to be a superb individual. I'am saddened and want to send my SINCERE CONDOLENCES to all the families involved in this tragedy and to let all of you at channel 3 and channel 15 that you are all in MY PRAYERS. May God Bless All of You and give You the strength to continue to do what you all do best , Keeping our family informed . For that I thank you all. May God Be With You
Posted by: Steve Younghans at July 29, 2007 1:07 PM
There simply are no words to express the feelings of loss. Please just listen to the hearts of your viewers to hear the love and support that we send to all of you. You truly are "Our AZ Family".
With Sincere
Love To You All,
Raylene Cordova
I can't help but think of Newschopper 3 as a seperate personality on the morning show. Hard to imagine the show without that chopper.
Posted by: raylene cordova at July 29, 2007 1:39 PM
I can't put into words how sorry I am for your loss. I am a photographer, here in the los angeles market, and got word of this, from my parents that just retired near phoenix. Just hearing the concern in my parents voice, really was an eye opener of what can happen in our stressful environment/industry. What a tragic incident...So sad, keep strong. Our thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: big d at July 29, 2007 8:39 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to each and every one of you.Istart my day everyday by turning on channel 3.I feel as though I have lost a family member myself.You are all so amazing to be able to pull it all together enough to be able to do the news.I know Scott and Jim are using their angel wings now.they are looking down and are watching over each of you(our arizona family)
Chris
Posted by: chris at July 29, 2007 9:21 PM
we are sorry for your lost and wish they could still be here with us and we will me them when they are gone and i wish you all the best.
Posted by: payton at July 29, 2007 9:26 PM
I am so sorry for the loss you are dealing with. I have watched 3 since I moved here 5 years ago. You are all like family to me. And I just want you to know that you are keeping great composure during all of this,but also know that it is ok to cry and grieve. This in normal for anyone who has lost such loved ones. And know that you are all in our hearts.
Posted by: Brandi at July 29, 2007 10:57 PM
Words cannot express the sorrow I feel for you and the families of both Scott and Jim! 3TV has soo many loyal viewers and we love all of you as you were our family. Please know that you ALL are in our heart and prayers! Scott and Jim will NEVER be forgotten!
My family did make a point to go to Indian Steele Park to lay flowers to show our respect. The out pour of love is AMAZING!
With Sincere gratitude for everthing you have done to give us, your LOYAL viewers the most up to date information on this tragedy during your greiving; we THANK YOU!
LOVE TO ALL,
Brandy Waterhouse 3TV viewer
Posted by: Brandy Waterhouse at July 29, 2007 11:40 PM
We are so sorry for your loss. We have the Channel 3 family in our home everyday. We feel that we know you. I was in awe of the Channel 3 reporters on Friday as they reported about the deaths of their dear friends. They held it together. I know they had God's help as they went though the tragic event of that day. What a wonderful thing the families of Scott and Jim are doing by donating the money to the young family of the officer that was so tragically taken from them. May God bless all of you and he will be with Bruce everytime he flies.
The Brinkley family
Posted by: The Brinkley's at July 30, 2007 9:50 AM
our prayers and thought's are with the family and friend's of Scott and Jim and also with the family at 3 T.v.,I never had the honor of meeting those two gentlemen they seemed really nice and a joy to be around.I've watched 3 T.v. my whole life and after watching on Friday the tragic crash i cried like if one of my own family member had passed away.that's how close New's channel 3 Make's you feel.i still have a very heavy heart about this...
Posted by: jaime chapman at July 30, 2007 3:56 PM
Having recently lost my son in an unforeseen auto accident, my heart and prayers go out to all of you. Please remember this little poem: "Death leaves a heartache no one can heal; Love leaves a memory no on can steal"
May all of you be blessed with peaceful time to heal and grieve. You won't "get over" this. Time only teaches us how to cope with it better each day.
Posted by: Dolores Gormley at July 30, 2007 3:59 PM
Steve, I have shared my remarks with Royal and Gary and I wanted to share them with you also. Please see that they get to Bruce and Lisa...
To the entire Channel 3 family, and I do mean family, I want to send my condolences to you all, especially Bruce and Lisa. I have been in Arizona now for just about 26 years and I have come to accept Channel 3 as my family. I too work in broadcast news at radio station KAWC (broadcast training home for Velka Atherton)as News Director. I have seen a lot of news coverage, but what Scott and Jim did was incredible. Channel 3's work ethic is only surpassed by your closeness as a family, a family I often wished to be a part of. May God bless you all and may He continued to hold each of you in His loving hands. Take comfort in knowing your family members, brothers if you will, are in a much better place and Bruce, always remember, and I borrow from the poem by Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee "HIGH FLIGHT" Scott and Jim have slipped the surly bounds of earth and danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings (rotor blades): Sunward they have climbed and joined the tumbling mirth--Of sun-split clouds and yes, they have done a hundred things that most of us have not dreamed of...And, while with silent lifting mind they have trod the high untresspassed sanctity of space, yes take comfort Bruce in knowing, that Scott and Jim have reached out and they have indeed, touched the face of God...
Greg Gardner
News Director
KAWC
Yuma, AZ 85365
(928) 210-4679
Posted by: Greg Gardner in Yuma at July 30, 2007 4:07 PM
My Dad always says 'What can we do". Just know that next time you go flying, Scott and Jim are right next to you supporting your wings. God Bless.
Posted by: Mari at July 30, 2007 4:47 PM
May the edges of the chasm soften with time. All of you at 3TV have our blessings.
Posted by: Keith and Marla at July 31, 2007 4:58 PM
Steve, I hope the memorial service helped you and your co-workers -- it was a beautiful, heartfelt tribute and I cried with the rest of you through much of it.
The love you felt for Jim and Scott shows not only how fine a person each of them is, but how fine a person you are. You folks at AZ Family are a good model for the rest of us -- people caring honestly about the people they spend their time with -- at work and at play. We love our Arizona Family, and miss these two who have left.
Posted by: CJ Swartz at July 31, 2007 6:38 PM
Please accept my deepest condolences on the loss of your brothers Jim and Scott. While they are not your brothers by blood, they truly are and will always be your brothers in spirit. 3TV was the first news channel I watched when I first moved here in '95 and I've been watching ever since. I have always loved the way eveyone gets along with each other. I have been equally proud of the way all of you have embraced each other in this terrible time and still come through for the public. You folks will get through this with the grace you have always shown your viewers. The Lord bless all of you and comfort you.
Posted by: Es Flores at July 31, 2007 7:04 PM
Oh my Gosh Steve. You don't have to apologize or promise a thing to the viewers. We are all grieving this great loss and we only knew them on screen. This was such a tragedy for both news stations. I want to commend each and every one of you for the strength you all showed to hold yourselves togeather like you did minutes and hours after the crash to report the news. How you all managed that is beyond words. I am so very sorry and touched by this great loss. You are all doing an amazing job at reporting the news through this tragic event. God Bless you all!
Posted by: Sandy at July 31, 2007 9:54 PM
Dear AZ's Family,
Thoughts and prayers are sent your way. Thank you for coming into our home and sharing and reporting the news. May this time of greiving help you begin the healing process. Scott and Jim will be greatly missed by all.
Know God has them both in His hands. Scott and Jim would want ya' all at AZ's Family to live life at the fullest, as they did.
Take care and May God Bless and give you comfort!
Sincerely,
Lorri
Gilbert, AZ
Posted by: Lorri at July 31, 2007 9:58 PM
This will be a day I will never forget. I was on the phone with an adoptive parent giving them the news that they were chosen as parents by the birth mother of a fine young boy, 6lbs. 8 ozs. When I heard a scream in our training room on the top floor of our office located on N. 7th St. One of my colleagues, brand new to the agency witnessed the two helicopters hitting in midair. I had to put my parent on hold and find out what was happening. The scene on the top floor of our office was like 9-1-1 in New York City on a smaller version. As a retired police officer, I've seen many crime scenes and felt that I was back in the arena. I moved to the city 11 months ago, retired thinking of a new life and start. When I had heard of who was possibly involved, I asked which news helicopter. When I heard it was Channel 3, I said, which one was it? Bruce or Scott? I started watching Channel 3 every morning getting ready for work. In the earlier 90's I lost some dear friends in an airplane crash, that were in the medical field transporting a patient. The hardest thing I had to do was to investigate the scene. My heart felt sympathy goes out to Channel 3 and Channel 15 who lost not only their colleagues but their friends and family. This will remain forever in your minds and mine, of this sad and surreal day. God was with them during the greatest days of their lives. God will show them even greater days ahead. Sometimes we don't know why things happen. All we can do is hold on to the love, memories and each other. It's those of us on this earth that grieve. Jim, Scott, Rick and Craig are at home and in peace. Later that evening due to the airing of the news from Channel 3, I heard the news of Officer Cortez. As a fellow police officer, it is a brotherhood and sisterhood fraternity. Just as it is family to those of Channel 3 and all the news media family. Many of us have shed some very long and tearful days. Yet, tomorrow will shed a new light from above from all of those we have lost over the years. Watch the bright stars at night, you might get a wish from those dear to our hearts watching over us and giving us some peace in our lives. Life really is to short. That is why you must live it to the fullest. Godspeed, Marilyn
Posted by: Marilyn at July 31, 2007 10:38 PM
My prayers continue with each of you and the family of 3 tv. I have been a loyal fan for 40+years and have seen many changes but the love and closeness that remains shows so completely to the state of AZ. I have just finished watching the taping of the memorial service with tears running down my face. Tears for your losses and ours. If there is anyway to find out the name of the song played during the ending video of the brave men, I'd certainly appreciate it. What a beautiful tribute to each of them. May God Bless each of you.
Posted by: 0live at July 31, 2007 11:00 PM
These two men were VERY lucky to have friends and colleagues like you! :-)
Posted by: Tayva Martinez at July 31, 2007 11:48 PM
My family and I have been part channel 3tv since 1998 and I really feel as though we lost one of our own. God is good, I already see so much good coming out of this very sad day. Wow these two gentlemen are so deeply loved by those who knew them and by those they have never met. Most of us have never met Jim and Scott but we know they were awesom people and how lucky they are to have the family and frinds that they do.
Trust in the lord and know that though the grace of god Jim and Scott are already doing good thing down here on earth while watching from above..
Posted by: Jennifer Soto at August 1, 2007 12:42 AM
Steve, please accept our deepest sympathy for the loss of your friends and colleagues. Our prayers are with all of you, those at CH15, and all the Families who are grieving such a tragic and sudden loss. The void our loved ones leave is enourmous, although their spirits are with us forever. May your loving memories bring comfort and strength in the days ahead. Jeff & Bunny Jones ("A Timeless Gift" feature story 11/06)
Posted by: Jeff and Bunny Jones at August 1, 2007 9:01 PM
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